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Disclaimers for Sensitive Articles

Last week, I learned more information about the recent plane crash in Germany. The pilot had a history of mental health problems along with suicidal tendencies, in which he looked up ways of committing suicide and then proceeded with the plane crash method. In response, I feel there should be a disclaimer for this article and other articles containing sensitive content.--OfficerAPC (talk) 17:41, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Relevant previous discussions

Talk:Suicide/Archive_6#RfC:_Crisis_hotline_link
#Warning at top?
#Suicide prevention/helpline template/message/notice!
Talk:Suicide_methods/Archive_4#Put something on to help people

-- GB fan 17:53, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:No disclaimers in articles. -- Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 20:18, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Oppose. There are lots of reasons to put warnings on all our articles. We should resist this temptation. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Support. We should be following the example set by Google. They are providing contact information to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. Bus stop (talk) 20:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Oppose. Read Wikipedia:No_disclaimers_in_articles. It is all explained quite well. Wikipedia presents objective information with a neutural point of view. Shabidoo | Talk 16:07, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Suicide methods

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Reference named "reuters1":

From Mohamed Bouazizi: Noueihed, Lin (19 January 2011). "Peddler's martyrdom launched Tunisia's revolution". Reuters. Retrieved 23 January 2011.
From Germanwings Flight 9525: Hepher, Tim; Rosnoblet, Jean-Francois (27 March 2015). "Co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing Germanwings jet". Reuters. Retrieved 27 March 2015.
From University of Hong Kong: Pomfret, James (29 September 2015). "Hong Kong university faces pressure from pro-Beijing opponents of liberal scholar". Reuters.

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Ellen Fleming talks about Suicide Prevention Methods - YouTube

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Hanging

  Hanging is one of the most common ways to suicide worldwide, there are two ways to do the act, being named long drop and short drop, which cause unconsciousness for lack of blood in the brain.  Hanging causes nausea and when failed makes permanent damage in the body.  -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Heyinternet (talk o contribs) 00:41, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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The article does not differentiate suicide and euthanasia. Please fix. Exit International and Dignatas are euthanasia sites, not suicide, and the nitrogen exit bag does not produce hypercapnia, there is no panic when the exit bag is used with an inert gas. Reference: Dying with Dignity, Dignatas.

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. -- Andy W. (talk) 01:02, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

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A warning is urgently needed

It is the collective Wiki community's responsibility to minimize the risk that this page enables someone's self-harm. There is a lot of debate on this page about the importance of free information, but I do not understand why adding a warning would detract. While it is outside the bounds of usual wiki standards to include subjective information, gravity of this topic and the degree to which this page enables violence warrants an exception. When I search suicide on Google, I get this message: "You're not alone. Confidential help is available for free. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline Call 1-800-273-8255 Available 24 hours everyday"

Can we please add that on here? Even if one person's behavior is altered by seeing this message, we will have saved a life. This page is something that many suicide contemplators will come across. We have a responsibility to lead them away from going through with the action, and not towards it.

I accidentally came across this article (it was a suggested article from google, while i was searching something else) and horrified that this type of article existed on Wikipedia. This is not a neutral article as is--it is one that provides "how-to" information on self-harm, and it must be amended.Hw13579 (talk)anonymous wiki user [I created an account just to express this concern] --Preceding undated comment added 01:39, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

As you correctly point out, when someone searches on google - which is what pretty much the whole world does when they want to find information - it provides access to suicide prevention information. Google isn't an encyclopedia, and they manage their own content presentation, and it's awesome that they do that when you search on suicide.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It presents information to readers, and it does not make value judgements as to _whether_ to provide information - it is only concerned with the accuracy of information presented and whether the accuracy is reliable as found from _other sources_. There is *no* original content in this article that cannot be found elsewhere on the net, with merely the slightest effort (also thanks to google). It is not a how-to, nor is the information in this article presented as a how-to. It describes a set of human behaviors. There are entries on Wikipedia for matters far more horrendous than suicide methods, but no warnings are presented, because that's not what encyclopedias exist for. An encyclopedia does not offer guidance to readers on what they should or should not do (nor what they may or may not do, what they can or cannot do). The reader is responsible for their decisions. Wikipedia does not provide encouragement or discouragement - it presents information, period.

I realize and appreciate that you mean well, but your concern - and effort - is misplaced. Volunteer at a suicide prevention hotline if you want to save lives from suicide. You will accomplish far more than trying to force exceptions upon what is intended to be an unbiased source of information, disconnected from moral judgements of the editors. Anastrophe (talk) 06:43, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

This encyclopedia (and ideally all of them) provides information from reliable sources as objectively (hopefully) as possible. It doesn't give disclaimers or warnings or take a stance on difficult or polemical issues of culture, politics, bodily autonomy, religion etc. It is unfiltered information and it is extremely important that people, everywhere, has access to this information without barriers or disclaimers or a particular lense through which to read the article or content policing or anything of the sort. Keep in mind that for some readers wikipedia is one of the only places the can find objective information on many topics. You'll note that there are no warnings or disclaimers of this kind on any pages throughout all of wikipedia. I'd personally feel more comfortable if there were a warning on this article (from my own perspective/ideology) but doing so would impose my views (moral/cultural) onto an article that is meant to provide objective information. So I'm sorry, as you'll note in the long history of this talk page, it's been decided multiple times that we won't place a warning. The last time we had this discussion I placed a link to "suicide prevention" in the "see also" section...which is about as much as can be done per suicide-prevention-advocacy...without breaking a major pillar of wikipedia. I understand your concern...I'd recommend that you consider trying to improve the "suicide prevention" article per content, sources etc. Shabidoo | Talk 02:13, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Google knows were you are from and therefore can tell you the correct number to call. We cannot. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:03, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks User:Everymorning for the edits, new content and studies cited. Greatly improved the sections covered by your contributions! Shabidoo | Talk 22:22, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

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